1) Very controversial members NCT Taeyong - past of frauds, insulting school girls, etc Haechan - friends with sasaengs iKON BI - father's embezzlement, hitting maknae, etc Junhoe - club 2) The rappers have too many singing parts In comparison, vocal members get more parts for Winner 3) The coordi NCT's coordi used to be iKON's coordi - Pann : The reasons why NCT and iKON are doing bad 1. [+559, -99] I wonder what Bobby thinks as he's watching BTS right now... Just three years ago, he thought BTS was a joke and dissed them... 2. [+302, -13] Even with Zico, Block B's songs are mostly about the melodies. 3. [+186, -25] I think #2 and 3 are the biggest factors. Even with a controversial member, a group can still become popular by fans shutting up people. 4. [+108, -1] Please don't mention Winner in this kind of posts ㅠㅠ 5. [+100, -9] Similarity between "flopping groups" - trolls always claim they're flopping. If they're flopping for real, people w...